autogodwinization

[essentialsaltes]

"Jesus hates Muslims," they screamed at worshippers arriving at the Masjid An-Noor mosque to prepare for the holy month of Ramadan. One protester shoved a placard at a group of young children leaving the mosque. "Murderers," he shouted.

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Sure, it's just a few nuts. A Tea Party party here, a 'refudiate' there, and the occasional full-blown "terrorists' monkey god". We laugh (sadly) at the ignorant malapropism-laden nattering of these idiots, but their star seems to be rising, and once they gag the loudest of their nuts, more competent prose stylists will be pushing their familiar talking points...

Muslim hatred today is as strong as it ever was. He who does not submit is their enemy. The Muslim hates the enemy with all his heart and with all the strength of his satanic soul. That is what the “holy” books of the Muslims say. Every Muslim, regardless of whether he lives in France or America, whether he speaks Russian or Spanish, whether he lives in the slums or on Wall Street, thinks and feels as the Koran commands him.

Now there is war! The Muslims forced us into a struggle for life and death. The war has forced us to give up much we formerly thought was necessary. It has also forced us to give up the “politeness” that in reality is a weakness. A boxer in the ring must use his fists to defend himself against his opponent. A fencer can only win when he uses his sword. We as a people will survive this war only if we eliminate weakness and “politeness” and respond to the Muslims with an equal hatred. We must always keep in mind what the Muslim wants today, and what he plans to do with us. If we do not oppose the Muslims with the entire energy of our people, we are lost. But if we can use the full force of our soul that has been released by the Tea Party revolution, we need not fear the future. The devilish hatred of the Muslims plunged the world into war, need and misery. Our holy hate will bring us victory and save all of mankind.

Comments

[dogofthefuture.livejournal.com]

These people seem to have grown up in a different America than the one I did.

[ian-tiberius.livejournal.com]

No kidding. Every time I hear some jackass yakking about how he wants to "take our country back", and that entails doing something that would have made the Founders spit their beer across the room, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

"[When] the [Virginia] bill for establishing religious freedom... was finally passed,... a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion." The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend within the mantle of its protection the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination."

-Thomas Jefferson, from his "Autobiography"

[essentialsaltes.livejournal.com]

I have a big man-crush on Madison for his Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments (establishing a provision for Teachers of the Christian Religion)

Because the proposed establishment is a departure from the generous policy, which, offering an Asylum to the persecuted and oppressed of every Nation and Religion, promised a lustre to our country, and an accession to the number of its citizens. What a melancholy mark is the Bill of sudden degeneracy? Instead of holding forth an Asylum to the persecuted, it is itself a signal of persecution. It degrades from the equal rank of Citizens all those whose opinions in Religion do not bend to those of the Legislative authority. Distant as it may be in its present form from the Inquisition, it differs from it only in degree. The one is the first step, the other the last in the career of intolerance. The maganimous sufferer under this cruel scourge in foreign Regions, must view the Bill as a Beacon on our Coast, warning him to seek some other haven, where liberty and philanthrophy in their due extent, may offer a more certain respose from his Troubles.

[ian-tiberius.livejournal.com]

I wasn't familiar with that before. Thanks.

[gotham-bound.livejournal.com]

I end up feeling at a loss in the face of entrenched fallacies like this. The loss is in trying to determine what I should say because I keep thinking the premise flies right in the face of the central tenets of the religion these people are claiming. My primary response that comes to mind is out of the religion I have... but to actually voice it makes me feel weird. Speaking from a religious standpoint contrasts very uncomfortably with the culture I've assimilated.

I don't know how inhibited others in the Christian world feel, but I've known many who are. I recognize that it's not enough to keep to myself and only think "but you're wrong, God is love and claiming God contains hate is a falsehood" but besides feeling distinct anxiety at challenging them, I feel inhibited at the idea of parading my beliefs on anything like the same level. Maybe that's my weakness. Maybe that's why extremists and bigots are defining the faith as far as those outside of the faith are concerned.

fuck.

(But they are wrong. It says "love thy neighbor" not "be polite" or even "ignore." To espouse hatred is to reject the very core of Christian duty. No one said it would be easy. In fact, there is no promise that we would see fruits of this effort in this life. To fail to love is a common human weakness, but to reject it... ARGH)

[essentialsaltes.livejournal.com]

Maybe that's why extremists and bigots are defining the faith as far as those outside of the faith are concerned.

That's kinda the same problem the moderate Muslims have.

[ian-tiberius.livejournal.com]

Just saw this on the L.A. Times web site:

Obama supports mosque near ground zero
At a Ramadan dinner, the president breaks his silence on the issue, framing it as one of religious freedom.

There's no "framing it as", assholes. If you want the government to ban members of one religion from doing something, but members of all other religions are allowed to do it, you're proposing exactly what the First Amendment was written to prevent, regardless of what your bullshit excuse is.

"Framing it as". Is there some reason the supposedly liberal media can't call a spade a fucking spade?

[dogofthefuture.livejournal.com]

Well, because he was at a *Ramadan* dinner, so obviously he's a Muslin terrorist who is out to destroy America. That's why. Jeez, why are you liberals so blind?