You're right - my analogy was a bad one. But I've never seen 'West Point' used formally. Even the web site you link uses the formal USMA - admittedly with West Point in parentheses.
Perhaps a better analogy would be something like a nickname for a school. Most people I know who went to Cal say "Cal" or "Berkeley" in conversation, and I've never heard anybody say "University of California". But a the same time I'd expect to see "University of California, Berkeley" on a resume or CV, and it would sound a bit off to me to read in a formal news report something like "Mr. Johnson has a degree in applied protest studies from Cal".
But, boy, those majors sound like the West Point equivalent of the jock majors at the Nebraskas and Michigan States of the world - like "liberal studies".
and it would sound a bit off to me to read in a formal news report something like "Mr. Johnson has a degree in applied protest studies from Cal".
Same here, but I doubt I'd bat an eye if I read "Mr. Johnson has a degree in applied protest studies from Berkeley." (Assuming I missed the "applied protest studies" part.)
For me, it would depend on how formal the source was. I wouldn't bat an eye in a blog posting, but in something like the NY Times, I'd think "there's one the editor missed!". But being from Boston, I know there's a Berkeley Conservatory there to be confused with the better-known UC Berkeley. If I saw "Mr Johnson has a degree... from UC Berkeley" I wouldn't bat an eye either.
But then I've been grading essays recently, so maybe my prose-meter is set a bit too far over to "formal"...
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Date: 2008-04-10 06:31 am (UTC)Perhaps a better analogy would be something like a nickname for a school. Most people I know who went to Cal say "Cal" or "Berkeley" in conversation, and I've never heard anybody say "University of California". But a the same time I'd expect to see "University of California, Berkeley" on a resume or CV, and it would sound a bit off to me to read in a formal news report something like "Mr. Johnson has a degree in applied protest studies from Cal".
But, boy, those majors sound like the West Point equivalent of the jock majors at the Nebraskas and Michigan States of the world - like "liberal studies".
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Date: 2008-04-10 08:25 am (UTC)Same here, but I doubt I'd bat an eye if I read "Mr. Johnson has a degree in applied protest studies from Berkeley." (Assuming I missed the "applied protest studies" part.)
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Date: 2008-04-11 05:49 am (UTC)But then I've been grading essays recently, so maybe my prose-meter is set a bit too far over to "formal"...
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Date: 2008-04-11 12:55 pm (UTC)