Sorry, hagdirt

[essentialsaltes]

So the whole Cal Godot thing on enigmachat got me all misty-eyed and nostalgic for Adam J. Bernay. Let's play internet stalker.

He's now a rabbi, conducting services for a messianic congregation that meets in his house. (Well, okay, his parents' house.)

And ladies? He's single:

"I am single, 31 years old, and looking for Miss Right. My hobbies include science fiction fandom, karaoke, and spouting opinions.

About my potential match: Ideally, I'm looking for an American Ashkenzic Messianic Jewish woman, 25-35 years old, raven-haired, dark-eyed beauty around 6 feet tall, healthy but not so thin the bones stick out, as seems to be the fashion nowadays."

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[essentialsaltes.livejournal.com]

Funny, I don't recall it that way.

That's because you're intellectually dishonest or self-deluded (take your pick).

what that means is you think that your opinions are the only ones that have facts and evidence to back them up.

No, what I mean is that you frequently failed to provide facts and evidence to support your position.

Let's visit the enigmachat archives:

Adam: Even back as far as the founding of this country, we had not
only a much higher literacy rate, but we also had a much higher civic
knowledge rate!
(Source: Adam's ass)

Mike:
In 1920, the Census reported a US illiteracy rate of 6.0%
In 1930, the Census reported a US illiteracy rate of 4.3%.
The Census defines an illiterate as "one who cannot write in any language".
The 1970 Census figure is 1%
(Source: US Census data)

Scott:
Percent Illiterate in the Population (p.382)
1870 20
1900 10.7
1930 4.3
1969 1.0

High School Graduates -- percent of persons 17 years old (p.381)
1870 2.0
1900 6.3
1930 28.8
1969 75.9
(Source: U.S. Bureau of the Census, _Historical Statistics of the United States, Colonial Times to 1970_.)

Adam: I wonder what was meant by "illiterate" by these standards, since the info I've seen is different.
(Source: Info Adam has seen.)

[maccabee.livejournal.com]

Actually, no, that was not the sources. deTocqueville wrote about the high rate of literacy in "Democracy in America" and there was other similar data I had gleaned from when I was doing research work for the president of the Alliance for the Separation of School & State. I'd have to go back over the records of that research to find where I gleaned that from. If you really want me to, I can check on it. But the fact is, it's not stuff sourced from my tuchus. And this is the point: I know for a fact that I mentioned both "Democracy in America" and the Alliance research at the time, and yet you still credit this only as coming from my nether regions. That means YOU are the intellectually dishonest one, not wanting to admit that other data exists.

[essentialsaltes.livejournal.com]

Since Democracy in America was written 170 years ago, I don't think anything De Tocqueville had to say can bear on the question of the current state of public education and literacy.

Regardless, it remains a fact that you did not then, nor have you now, offered any data.

[maccabee.livejournal.com]

De Tocqeville had something to say on the state of American literacy at the time he toured America. We can then compare it to now. Sheesh.

I have offered the source of it. I can dig for the specifics, if you are willing to hear it. I don't dig out old info for it to fall on deaf ears.