essentialsaltes: (Patriotic)
essentialsaltes ([personal profile] essentialsaltes) wrote2008-02-05 08:33 am
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[identity profile] jason-brez.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
when i think of large organizations effecting change without resorting to voting (or armed revolution), i think of the fall of the berlin wall and the changes of governments in eastern europe, east germany, czechoslovakia, and hungary in particular. in those countries, people organized, gathered, protested, marched, and forced the sitting governments out of power. the voting came later.

[identity profile] stankow.livejournal.com 2008-02-06 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. When you're explicitly laying out your criteria of large organizations effecting change without voting, then you're probably going to come up with a lot of examples of large organizations that effect change without voting. If you're willing to accept that maybe large organizations can effect change via the ballot or the threat thereof, then perhaps you can think of some instances when it's happened.